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for elderly and sick and people that can't afford it. the row to serfdom always begins with good intentions. when government is this much enmeshed in a program like this it always leads to disaster. bill: a couple things he fears coburn says, obamacare is next one to join the club of medicaid as we just pointed out. medicare, 16,750%. defense health programs, 1300%. veterans medical care, 4500%. all this now -- listen -- bill: got to pay for it, charlie. >> every time the government is involved in these programs they balloon greater than the rate of inflation. look why housing prices went up so much. i give you a analogy. they went a lot because you have government involvement. went up until the rate of inflation until they crash. this stuff always crashes in the end, unto the northly. bill: unfortunately. see you on fbn. charlie gasparino. what's next, martha? martha: thanks, guys. there is a big push underway for dallas to host the 2016 national convention. the last time it was in the big d, 1984 when delegates officially nominated president ronald reagan for his second term. casey stiege
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